Return-Path: X-Original-To: hugo at libertesnumeriques dot net Delivered-To: hugo at libertesnumeriques dot net Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.leoserveur dot org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6942C1A1 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:30:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.leoserveur dot org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vCvg1SdYZVlV for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:30:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gadolin.fsfeurope dot org (mail.fsfeurope dot org [195.176.254.152]) by smtp.leoserveur dot org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C26A2C16C for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:30:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gadolin.fsfeurope dot org (Postfix) id 7EB1454C51E; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:30:19 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: roy at fsfeurope dot org Received: from cavendish.fsfeurope dot org (cavendish.fsfeurope dot org [195.176.254.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cavendish.fsfeurope dot org", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (verified OK)) by gadolin.fsfeurope dot org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650C754C51E for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:30:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by cavendish.fsfeurope dot org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 680DA4F89F5 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:29:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED4F908E129 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7b33ae000001768-05-4bdad94c5a68 Received: from et.apple.com (et.apple.com [17.151.62.12]) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 27.AE.05992.C49DADB4; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:21:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from [17.248.4.102] (wave-dhcp102.apple.com [17.248.4.102]) by et.apple.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L1O00J82YFFS460@et.apple.com> for hugo at fsfe dot org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <60FAA9B2-86CF-43BD-8D38-BB4DAD780039@apple.com> From: Steve Jobs To: Hugo Roy In-reply-to: <1272621947.12757.5.camel@totosh> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B367) Subject: Re: Open letter to Steve Jobs: Thoughts on Flash Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:21:17 -0700 References: <1272621947.12757.5.camel@totosh> X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAZE= X-Fellowship-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Fellowship-MailScanner-From: sjobs at apple.com X-Spam-Status: No, No X-FSFE-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-FSFE-MailScanner-From: sjobs at apple.com X-Evolution-Source: imap://hugo%40libertesnumeriques dot net@imap.leoserveur dot org:993/ All video codecs are covered by patents. A patent pool is being = assembled to go after Theora and other "open source" codecs now. = Unfortunately, just because something is open source, it doesn't mean or = guarantee that it doesn't infringe on others patents. An open standard = is different from being royalty free or open source. Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:05 AM, Hugo Roy wrote: >=20 > Dear Steve Jobs, >=20 > Having read your Thoughts on Flash, I could not agree with you more. > Flash is not the Web, and I am glad Apple seizes the opportunity of = open > standards to build better products for their customers. >=20 > But I am not so sure about your definition of the word Open in = general. > I will not argue here that it is ironic you find the Apple Store more > open than Flash. I will not complain either you like Openness so much > that when you use Open Source Software to build your Mac operating > system, you keep that openness for yourself and don=E2=80=99t give it = to your > customers, nor to the developers whose works have been very useful to > you. >=20 > I figured that writing an open letter was an appropriate way to remind > you of a couple of things that you may have forgotten =E2=80=94 maybe = in good > faith =E2=80=94 about open standards. >=20 > It is true that HTML5 is an emerging open standard, and I am glad that > you adopted it (well, did you really have the choice anyway?). However = I > have to say I am impressed in the way you succeed in saying how Apple > has been doing great with open standards against Flash=E2=80=A6 while = explaining > Flash videos is not a problem, because Apple has implemented another > video codec: H.264. >=20 > May I remind you that H.264 is not an open standard? This video codec = is > covered by patents, and =E2=80=9Cvendors and commercial users of = products which > make use of H.264/AVC are expected to pay patent licensing royalties = for > the patented technology=E2=80=9D (ref). This is why Mozilla Firefox = and Opera > have not adopted this video codec for their HTML5 implementation, and > decided to chose Theora as a sustainable and open alternative. >=20 > Free Software Foundation Europe have been raising consensus and > awareness on Open Standards for some years already. I am sure we would > be happy to help Apple make the good decision. So, to begin with, here > is the definition: >=20 > An Open Standard refers to a format or protocol that is >=20 > 1. subject to full public assessment and use without > constraints in a manner equally available to all > parties; > 2. without any components or extensions that have > dependencies on formats or protocols that do not meet > the definition of an Open Standard themselves; > 3. free from legal or technical clauses that limit its > utilisation by any party or in any business model; > 4. managed and further developed independently of any > single vendor in a process open to the equal > participation of competitors and third parties; > 5. available in multiple complete implementations by > competing vendors, or as a complete implementation > equally available to all parties. >=20 > Hugo Roy > April 2010 >=20 > http://blogs.fsfe dot org/hugo/2010/04/open-letter-to-steve-jobs/ >=20 > --=20 > Hugo Roy im: hugo at jabber.fsfe dot org=20 > French Coordinator http://www.fsfe dot org/about/roy=20 >=20 > Free Software Foundation Europe works to create general understanding > and support for software freedom in politics, law and = society-at-large. > For more information, see http://www.fsfe dot org